Tuesday, April 26, 2016

Mt. Sinai Location


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The distance from Cairo Egypt
to Nuweibaa is 300 miles

Average human walking speed is over 3 miles per hour.

If a person walks 10 hours a day,
he can walk 30 miles per day.

It would take 10 days 
to walk 300 miles.





























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The straight line ( air ) distance from Cairo Egypt


to Nuweibaa is 220 miles.

It would take 7 days to walk 220 miles.

http://www.distancefromto.net

















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Jabal al-Lawz 
Saudi Arabia

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jabal+al-Lawz/@28.6424925,35.2456849,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x15abab47c58d444b:0x2079827a3ea5ea2c


Jabal al-Lawz 
216 miles South of Jerusalem


http://www.distancefromto.net






















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I believe that Mt. Sinai 
is located in Saudi Arabia

Jabal al-Lawz
Saudi Arabia

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jabal+al-Lawz/@28.0526947,33.4020417,1247366m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x15abab47c58d444b:0x2079827a3ea5ea2c


Jim and Penny Caldwell
https://www.swmich.edu/news/raiders-lost-mount-caldwells

Interview - Caldwell youtube
https://youtu.be/oycXEGVG3xA

Video evidence - Caldwell 
https://youtu.be/KaPn_pKQt0s


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*Midian is the Key :

Moses saw the burning bush on
Horeb, the Mountain of God.

Mt. Horeb = Mt. Sinai

God tells Moses to free the Israelites,
and then serve God on Mt. Horeb ( Mt. Sinai ).

This was in Midian.

Mt. Sinai must be in Midian.

Midian is in Saudi Arabia.

This is the number one geographic clue
for the location of Mt. Sinai


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Exodus 2

Verse 15 
Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelt in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well.


Exodus 3 

Verses 1-2

Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 

So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed.

Verse 12
So He said, “I will certainly be with you. And this shall be a sign to you that I have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall serve God on this mountain.”



https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+3&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE



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First find Mt. Sinai / Horeb

The Key is Midian

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Red Sea

http://www.baseinstitute.org/pages/mt_sinai/18

http://www.bibleinterp.com/opeds/hum358018.shtml

https://www.tms.edu/m/tmsj14d.pdf

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/nov2002/hurn.pdf

http://www.crivoice.org/yamsuph.html

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-mt-sinai-arabia-gal-4-25.htm

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/08/New-Evidence-from-Egypt-on-the-Location-of-the-Exodus-Sea-Crossing-Part-I.aspx

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/06/Is-Mount-Sinai-in-Saudi-Arabia.aspx

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/04/In-Search-of-Mt-Sinai.aspx

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/09/Debunking-The-Exodus-Decoded.aspx

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/05/Thoughts-on-Jebel-al-Lawz-as-the-Location-of-Mount-Sinai.aspx

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2007/10/Mount-Sinai-is-NOT-Jebel-al-Lawz-in-Saudi-Arabia.aspx

http://c795631.r31.cf2.rackcdn.com/frank_moore_cross_conversations_with_a_bible_scholar.pdf

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/06/Is-Mount-Sinai-in-Saudi-Arabia.aspx

http://ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Paul_Arabia_Elijah.pdf

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/alanc49.htm

http://bibtheo.blogspot.com/2007/03/paul-in-arabia-gal-117.html



http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-mt-sinai-arabia-gal-4-25.htm


http://lubbockonline.com/stories/021900/lif_0219000030.shtml#.VyASNtrVnx4

The Bible also provides important evidence, Cross says. Almost every expert agrees that the scriptural land of Midian was east of the Gulf of Aqaba in southern Jordan and northern Arabia. And Midian was closely linked with Moses. The Bible reports that after he killed an overlord in Egypt, "Moses fled from Pharaoh, and stayed in the land of Midian" (Exodus 2:15).






1 Kings 9

26 
King Solomon also built a fleet of ships at Ezion Geber, which is near Elath on the shore of the Red Sea, in the land of Edom.


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+9&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE



D 1:2


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+1&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE

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Dr. NT Wright

Paul, Mt. Sinai, and Arabia.

NT Wright says:
One thing we know for sure is that,
for Paul, Arabia was the location of Mount Sinai.

In Paul's day, Arabia was the area to the south and east of Palestine.

NT Wright believes that Paul " went off to Mount Sinai "




Mt. Sinai and Horeb in Midian in Saudi Arabia,
and Paul and Elijah



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NT Wright :

When Paul was stopped in his tracks by the revelation on the road to Damascus, Paul did what Elijah did. Paul went off to Mount Sinai.

The word “Arabia” in Paul’s day covered the area to the south and east of Palestine.

One thing we know for sure is that,
for Paul, “Arabia” was the location of Mount Sinai.



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N.T. Wright

PAUL, ARABIA, AND ELIJAH
GALATIANS 1:17

Journal of Biblical Literature
Volume 115, pages 683–692


Bottom of Page 2 - Top of Page 3 of the PDF

However, when stopped in his tracks by the revelation on the road to Damascus, he again did what Elijah did. He went off to Mount Sinai.

The word “Arabia” is very imprecise in Paul’s day, covering the enormous area to the south and east of Palestine; but one thing we know for sure is that, for Paul, “Arabia” was the location of Mount Sinai.

Indeed, Gal 1:17, our present passage, and 4:25, “for Sinai is a mountain in Arabia,” are the only two occurrences of Arabia in the whole New Testament.

Saul of Tarsus then “returned to Damascus” just like Elijah in 1 Kgs 19:15



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Dr. NT Wright Biography


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NT Wright notes the parallels
in Galatians 1 and 1 Kings 19

Paul went to Arabia,
received the gospel by the revelation of Jesus Christ,
and then Paul returned to Damascus.

Elijah went to Horeb the mountain of God,
the word of the Lord came to him,
and was instructed to return to Damascus.


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Galatians 1

Galatians 4

1 Kings 19


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http://www.ancient.eu/map/

http://www.oldmapsonline.org/en/Egypt#bbox=24.696775000000002,21.99999989999998,36.894544532234704,31.67153470000001&q=&date_from=0&date_to=9999&scale_from=&scale_to=

https://www.eduplace.com/kids/socsci/ca/books/bkf3/imaps/

http://www.davidrumsey.com/view

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/AncientWebPages/117.html

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/AncientWebPages/115.html

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-ancient-history/

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/maps-bible-archeology-exodus-route-kadesh-barnea-thomas-kitchin-1794ad.jpg

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm

http://ancientexodus.com/tag/horeb/

http://ancientexodus.com/the-researcher/

http://ancientexodus.com/store/

http://ancientexodus.com/fire-on-the-mountain-book/


http://ancientexodus.com/2013/04/11/the-date-of-the-exodus/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Daniel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Cyrus





https://cbumgardner.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/paul-in-ara/



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Geographic clues
Landmarks

1
Midian 
Arabia - Paul


2
Solomon - Yam Suf - city on gulf of aqba
Red sea crossing - out of Egypt
The port city is northern border

3
Elijah - Beersheba - 40+1 days
Not Beersheba 
Not Judah
Not Negev
Long distance

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Triangulation - Triangle 3
Needs to be in Midian
in Arabia
out of Egypt - past the Red Sea
Not near Beersheba Judah

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add a range
based on walking
3 miles per hour

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Rules out
Africa
Sinai Peninsula
Negev region of Israel

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Forces
Arabian peninsula - West side
South of Solomon port city
East of Gulf of Aqba


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This is based primarily on Geographic landmarks

Constraints

it's like Math

use the best clues
objective clues

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If your believe the Bible
or you don't

if you don't
then don't worry about it

if you do
then use the Bible like a travel guide

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Beer Sheva

183 miles

(  to Egypt Traditiona location is 192 miles )


http://www.distancefromto.net



















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1 Kings 19

Queen Jezebel was the wife of Ahab the king of Israel.

Jezebel threatened the life of Elijah.

Elijah arose and ran for his life, 
and went to Beersheba, which belongs to Judah.

Elijah went a day’s journey into the wilderness, 
and came and sat down under a juniper tree. 

As Elijah lay and slept under the juniper tree, 
an angel of the Lord touched Elijah, and said, 
“Arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you.” 

Elijah arose and ate and drank, 
and went 
in the strength of that food 
forty days and forty nights 
as far as 
Horeb, the mountain of God.

There Elijah went into a cave and lodged in the cave. 
And behold, the word of the Lord came to Elijah.


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2019&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE


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1 Kings 19


Elijah ran for his life, 
and went to 
Beersheba, which belongs to Judah.

Then Elijah went a day’s journey into the wilderness.

Elijah arose and ate and drank,
and went 
in the strength of that food 
forty days and forty nights 
as far as 
Horeb, the mountain of God = Mt. Sinai.


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1 Kings 19

Starting at Beersheba in Judah,
Elija traveled
One day into the wilderness,
and then Forty days
to Horeb, the mountain of God = Mt. Sinai.


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1 Kings 19

Beersheba in Judah.

One day's journey into the wilderness.

Then 40 days and 40 nights.

As far as 
Horeb, the mountain of God = Mt. Sinai.


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40+1 day travel time


Long distance
Long distance
Long distance

Elijah RAN for his life.

R/O

This rules out  
Negev in Israel

This rules out 
Be'er Sheva = a city in the Negev region of Israel.

This rules out 
Har Karkom = a Mountain in the Negev desert in Israel.


1 Kings 19

This also helps establish a northern parameter
bounder to our search grid.


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Beersheba is a city in the Negev desert of southern Israel. 

Negev is a desert region of southern Israel. 

The Negev region's largest city and administrative capital is Beersheba.

At the southern end of Negev is the Gulf of Aqaba and the port city of Eilat. 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beersheba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev#/media/File:Southern_District_in_Israel.svg






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Har Karkom is a Mountain in the Negev desert in Israel.

Har Karkom = Mountain of Saffron = Jabal Ideid

Dr. Emmanuel Anati PhD
proposes that 
Har Karkom in the Negev 
is the biblical Mt. Sinai.

http://www.harkarkom.com

http://www.harkarkom.com/Anati.php

http://www.harkarkom.com/exeg-topogrVERS1.htm

http://www.adssc.org/sites/default/files/Is%20Har%20Karkom%20the%20Biblical%20Mount%20Sinai.pdf

http://www.2008-paris-conference.org/mapage8/mount-horeb-1-.pdf

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-mt-sinai-mt-har-karkom.htm


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Distance  67  miles

Be'er Sheva, Israel
Har Karkom, Israel

http://www.distancefromto.net


Google Maps
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Be'er+Sheva/Har+Karkom,+Israel/@30.7683315,34.20632,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x15026640029f8777:0x8dee8012deb5dd8!2m2!1d34.791462!2d31.252973!1m5!1m1!1s0x1501c591a4aaedad:0x5a3084047b89ec65!2m2!1d34.7447222!2d30.2861111


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The distance between 
Be'er Sheva and Har Karkom
is 67 miles

Elijah can walk 67 miles in 3 days.

The Har Karkom as Mt. Sinai
is Not supported by the Bible.
It's non-biblical.

1 Kings 19  rules out the Har Karkom proposal.

Average walking speed is 3 miles per hour.


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It must fit.

It must be consistent with the Bible.

You must declare your position and use of the Bible.

Some things have a range of possibilities.

Some things are necessary criteria.


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Distance  183  miles

Be'er Sheva, Israel

Jabal al-Lawz
Saudi Arabia

http://www.distancefromto.net


Google Maps
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Be'er+Sheva/Jabal+al-Lawz/@28.9535659,32.4374436,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x15026640029f8777:0x8dee8012deb5dd8!2m2!1d34.791462!2d31.252973!1m5!1m1!1s0x15abab47c58d444b:0x2079827a3ea5ea2c!2m2!1d35.286253!2d28.6460625


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Be'er Sheva = a city in the Negev region of Israel.

Har Karkom = a Mountain in the Negev desert in Israel.

Both Be'er Sheva and Har Karkom
are located in the Negev region of Israel.



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Be'er Sheva = a city in the Negev region of Israel.

Har Karkom = a Mountain in the Negev desert in Israel.

Both Be'er Sheva and Har Karkom
are located in the Negev region of Israel.

Negev is a desert region in Israel. 


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In addition, 
At the time of King David :

Be'er Sheva was located in Israel.

Har Karkom was located in Israel.

Negev is a desert region in Israel.

Question:
Would Mt. Sinai / Horeb
be located inside the boundaries of Israel ?

This seems nonsensical.


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Israel at the time of David

https://notasitlooks.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/solomons-kingdom.jpg

http://www.redlinestudents.com/images/Map%20of%20King%20David.jpg

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/mesopotamian-history-121009094341-phpapp02/95/mesopotamianhistory-4-728.jpg?cb=1349776209

http://biblemapper.com/gallery_files/KingdomsOfSaulDavidAndSolomon_1_mark.jpg

http://www.bible-history.com/map-davids-kingdom/davids-kingdom.jpg

http://www.historyinthebible.com/supplementary_pages/graphics/800BC_Detail_Two_Kingdoms.png

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/kingsolomon-121207112606-phpapp02/95/king-solomon-12-638.jpg?cb=1354879652

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Kingdom_of_Israel_1020_map.svg

http://fournel.org/images/israel1.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/map-israel-1000bc-mfa-il-1.gif

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2f/b1/b9/2fb1b994483cb6653b50e92fd2f8bc0d.jpg

http://www.imninalu.net/maps_file/12Tribes.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Davids-kingdom_with_captions_specifiying_vassal_kingdoms-derivative-work.jpg/450px-Davids-kingdom_with_captions_specifiying_vassal_kingdoms-derivative-work.jpg



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Kadesh Barnea



Deuteronomy 1

1  These are the words which Moses spoke to all Israel on this side of the Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain opposite Suph, between Paran, Tophel, Laban, Hazeroth, and Dizahab. 

2  It is eleven days’ journey from Horeb by way of Mount Seir to Kadesh Barnea.  


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deuteronomy+1&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE


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Eleven days journey
from Horeb / Mt. Sinai
to Kadesh Barnea.


Walking  Human
average  3  miles per hour.

3 x 8 hours  =  24 miles a day

11 days  =  264  miles


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Jabal al-Lawz 
216 miles
distance to Jerusalem


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Kadesh Barnea

http://www.bible-history.com/map-davids-kingdom/israel_davids_kingdom_shg.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_Land_of_Israel.jpg

http://www.bible-history.com/map-davids-kingdom/israel_davids_kingdom_shg.jpg


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Forty years of wilderness wandering

http://www.gotquestions.org/wilderness-wandering.html


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Where is Kadesh?

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/biblical-archaeology-places/wilderness-wanderings-where-is-kadesh/


Tell el-Qudeirat, 
located in the valley of the Wadi el-Ein in the northeastern part of the Sinai Peninsula, is the best candidate for Biblical Kadesh-Barnea, according to scholarly consensus today.


http://cdn.biblicalarchaeology.org/wp-content/uploads/kadesh-barnea.jpg?6966b9


https://www.openbible.info/topics/kadesh_barne

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Triangulation
Location

https://www.teachengineering.org/collection/cub_/lessons/cub_images/cub_navigation_lesson06_figure10.jpg

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/navigation/1-what-is-triangulation.html

http://www.neilson.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/triangulation.png

http://www.adopsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Geolocation-Explained.png

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It seems that
Kadesh Barnea
has Not been located.

Kadesh Barnea
is Not a major geographic landmark.

If Kadesh Barnea located,
then we can use it as a geographic landmark.


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Triangulation (3)

Be'er Sheva

Ezion Geber  -  Solomon's Navy

Midian



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1 Kings 9

Verse 26  

King Solomon also built a fleet of ships (navy)
at Ezion Geber, 
which is near Elath 
on the shore of the Red Sea, 
in the land of Edom. 



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1 Kings 9:26


Ezion-Geber is on the shore of the Red Sea.

Ezion-Geber is on the shore of the Red Sea = Yam Suph
( Hebrew )

Ezion-Geber is on the shore of the Red Sea = Erythra Thalassa
( Greek )


1 Kings 9:26  says that
Ezion-Geber is the shore of the Red Sea.

Ezion-Geber is on the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba.

Gulf of Aqaba  =  Gulf of Eilat 

Gulf of Aqaba is part of the Red Sea

Gulf of Aqaba = Red Sea

1 Kings 9:26
is the Link between
Ezion-Geber
and Yam Suph.

Ezion-Geber is on the shore of Yam Suph ( Red Sea ).
And Ezion-Geber is located on the Gulf of Aqaba.
Therefore, per 1 Kings 9:26
Yam Suph  =  Gulf of Aqaba  =  Red Sea


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Ezion-Geber
Yam Suph
Red Sea
Gulf of Aqaba
Erythra Thalassa


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1 Kings 9:26

Gulf of Aqaba ( Red Sea )
is a linear Border
for our search grid.



Red Sea
even more specifically
Gulf of Aqaba ( Red Sea )


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Also you cannot dismiss the Greek Septuagint LXX.

Hebrew Masoretic 1000 AD.

Greek Septuagint LXX is Older.

Dead Sea Scrolls.

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Hebrew

Yam = Sea

Yam Soph = Sea at the End of the world


Red Sea

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/nov2002/hurn.pdf

https://www.tms.edu/m/tmsj14d.pdf

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Red_Sea.html#.VyGsetrVnx4


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Why is the Red Sea
called the Red Sea ?

It seems like
Nobody knows

So you can't interpret it as rEEd sea
and act like you know what it means

Yale Exeter - wild smiling smug confabulation
Not real science.
English Literature.



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Ezion Geber

Ezion-Geber 
was a city 
a biblical seaport on the northern extremity of the Gulf of Aqaba.

http://www.jesuswalk.com/isaiah/maps/edom-1073x1650x300.jpg

http://www.gospeldoctrine.com/sites/gospeldoctrine.com/files/Numbers%20map.jpg

http://www.teach4god.com/OTS/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Ezion-Geber-1-Kings-9.jpeg


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Numbers 14


25 
Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites dwell in the valley; tomorrow turn and move out into the wilderness by the Way of the Red Sea.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers+14&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE



Numbers 13   Spies sent into Canaan / Joshua & Caleb


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It's Math

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Midian
Arabia

Galatians

Exodus


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Galatians

Mt. Sinai
Arabia


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Galatians 1


1 Paul, an apostle (not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead), 

11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 

12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.

13 For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. 

14 And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, 

16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,

17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter,[a] and remained with him fifteen days. 

19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. 

20 (Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie.)

21 Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. 




https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=galatians+1&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE


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Galatians 4

22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 

24 which things are symbolic. For these are the[d] two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 

25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 

26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.



https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=galatians+4&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE


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Exodus 3

Verse 12

When you have brought 
the people OUT of Egypt, 
you shall serve God on THIS mountain.


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+3&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE


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Exodus 2

Midian


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Exodus 3

Midian

Horeb, the mountain of God

Jethro 

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Exodus 13
Exodus 14
Exodus 15
Exodus 16


Crossing the Red Sea

Exodus 14

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EXODUS

Out of Egypt

Red Sea Crossing

Midian

Galatians - Arabia



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https://yingsd963.wordpress.com/page/3/



Ancient Hebrew Research Center
Biblical Hebrew E-Magazine

February, 2005                                                    Issue #01


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Name of the Month – Red Sea
By: Jeff A. Benner

After the Israelites were delivered out of Egypt they camped at the "Red Sea". When the chariots of Pharaoh arrived the waters of the "Red Sea" were parted and the Israelites crossed over into safety on the other side. 

The "Red Sea" is actually a misnomer from the translation of the Hebrew. The Hebrew is ים סוף (yam suph). The Hebrew word ים (yam) means "sea" and when used alone refers to the Mediterranean Sea. Another Hebrew word is derived from this word, it is the word יום (yom) meaning day. In the Hebrew reckoning of time, the day begins at sunset. At sunset the sun sets in the west and into the Mediterranean Sea.

The word סוף (suph) literally means "edge". This can be the edge of a country (border), the lips as the edge of the mouth, or an outline of something. In the Biblical text this word is used for "reeds" which line the banks, or edge, of rivers. Hence, the "yam suph" is the "Sea of Reeds" or "Reed Sea". Somewhere in time the "Reed Sea" became the "Red Sea".

This same word, "suph", is used in Jewish theology in the term "eyen soph" (with just a vowel change). The word "eyn" means "without" and "soph" means "edge" or "definition" (as an outline). The phrase "eyn soph" means "without definition" and is used for God, the one who has no definition, outline or form.


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Greek Septuagint - then Latin

ReEd - Red  conversion is English

but the conversion occurred at the Greek - Hebrew step

also consider that Greek may be the more accurate

No vowels in Hebrew







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http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/nov2002/hurn.pdf


Page 425

column two


Suph
is the common Hebrew word for
" end "


The truth may be this,
that the Red Sea
was know to the Hebrews 
as Yam Soph
because they regarded
the Red Sea as
the sea at the End
of the world

the boundary of the known world


http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/nov2002/hurn.pdf


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No separate letters for vowels
in the written Hebrew alphabet

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_Two/Introduction/introduction.html


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https://yingsd963.wordpress.com/page/3/


The word
סוף

Suph
literally means “edge” 

This can be the edge of a country (border),
the lips as the edge of the mouth, or an outline of something. 



This same word, “suph”, 
is used in Jewish theology in the term “eyen soph” 
(with just a vowel change). 

The word “eyn” means “without” 
and 
“soph” means 
“edge” or “definition” (as an outline).

The phrase “eyn soph” 
means “without definition” 
and is used for God, 
the one who has no definition, outline or form.



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MATH

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1 Kings 19

Beersheba in Judah.

One day's journey into the wilderness.

Then 40 days and 40 nights.

As far as 
Horeb, the mountain of God = Mt. Sinai


Long distance from 
Beersheba in Judah


Long distance 
AWAY from 
Beersheba in Judah


Beersheba is a city in the Negev desert of southern Israel. 


- Not in close proximity to Beersheba

This is the constraint

it's Math

Logic

*Beersheba


Beersheba 
Judah

Negev
Israel


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How many hours walking

consider daylight hours


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Distance  67  miles

Be'er Sheva, Israel
Har Karkom, Israel

Elijah can walk there in three days


First Round
Stick with the Scriptures

Har Karkom is too close

Har Karkom is in the promised land



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1 Kings 9

Verse 26  

at Ezion Geber, 
which is near Elath 
on the shore of the Red Sea, 
in the land of Edom. 


Ezion-Geber
Yam Suph
Red Sea
Gulf of Aqaba
Erythra Thalassa


Ezion-Geber
Yam Suph = Gulf of Aqaba
Red Sea = Gulf of Aqaba

it's Math


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Paul
Galatians

Mt. Sinai
Arabia


EXODUS

Midian

Horeb

Crossing 
Yam Suph = Gulf of Aqaba
Red Sea = Gulf of Aqaba


Mt. Sinai must be on the other side of
Yam Suph = Gulf of Aqaba

on the other side of the 
Yam Suph = Gulf of Aqaba
is Saudi Arabia
Midian
Arabia


it's Math


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Saudi Arabia
Arabia
Arabian Peninsula
Midian
South of  Be'er Sheva, Israel
South of  Ezion-Geber

It's Math

You can't argue with the Bible


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Egypt Maps

http://theeducatorscloud-public.sharepoint.com/SiteAssets/ancient-egypt/PhysiographicFeaturesMap1_large.jpg

http://redblunabagpreg.blogspot.com/2011/06/map-of-ancient-egypt-cities.html

http://mrkash.com/images/egypt-map.jpg

http://www.advertisingbydesign.com/TheWord/maps/grafx/egypt_ancient-lower.JPG

http://www.euratlas.net/history/ancient_orient/

http://www.euratlas.net/history/ancient_orient/bd_1500_1400.html



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Midian

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Midianite

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/File:Exodus-map.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keturah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midian_(son_of_Abraham)

http://biblehub.com/topical/m/midianites.htm

http://biblehub.com/topical/m/midian.htm

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Midianites

http://www.gotquestions.org/Midianites.html

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Parashah/Summaries/Yitro/Moses_at_Midian/moses_at_midian.html

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09513b.htm

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/midian.html

http://biblehub.com/topical/m/midianites.htm

Numbers 31
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers+31&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE

Negev = Negeb
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+12%3A9&version=KJV;NKJV;MEV;ESV;NABRE

Negev
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=negev&qs_version=MEV

Mt.Sinai is Not in the Negev

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Midian

Midian
ancient region NW Arabia E of Gulf of Aqaba

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Midian



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https://www.englishclub.com/english-language-history.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint_manuscripts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hebrew_Bible_manuscripts

http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/10_Old-Testament-Tanakh-Manuscripts/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_English


Yale / Exeter = Snake

looking at the Hebrew
how as Yam Suph
mistranslated as Red Sea

Suph is Not Red

Hebrew and Greek  pre-date the first English language Bible

Greek and Latin Vulgate say Red Sea


this is proof of wacky confabulation


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Suph
Soph

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5490.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Sof

http://gnosticteachings.org/faqs/kabbalah/743-the-absolute.html

http://bibleapps.com/hebrew/5491.htm


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5487.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5486.htm


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5488.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5489.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5486.htm

http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

http://studybible.info/strongs/H5486

http://studybible.info/search/IGNT/

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/study/matthew/1.htm

http://www.workmanmin.com/Studies/InterlinearNT.pdf


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5592b.htm


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5490.htm

http://studybible.info/strongs/H5490

http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/5491.html

Latin Vulgate  Red Sea

Greek  Red Sea

Erythra


Rubrum

red ~ reEd   this play on words in only in English


Red Sea is a direct translation of the Greek Erythra Thalassa (Ερυθρὰ Θάλασσα) and Latin Mare Rubrum (alternatively Sinus Arabicus, literally "Arabian Gulf"), 

The name of the sea may signify the seasonal blooms of the red-coloured Trichodesmium erythraeum near the water's surface.

A theory favored by some modern scholars is that the name red is referring to the direction south, just as the Black Sea's name may refer to north. The basis of this theory is that some Asiatic languages used color words to refer to the cardinal directions.  Herodotus on one occasion uses Red Sea and Southern Sea interchangeably.

Historically, it was also known to western geographers as Mare Mecca (Sea of Mecca), and Sinus Arabicus (Gulf of Arabia).  Some ancient geographers called the Red Sea the Arabian Gulf or Gulf of Arabia.

The association of the Red Sea with the biblical account of the Israelites crossing the Red Sea is ancient, and was made explicit in the Septuagint translation of the Book of Exodus from Hebrew to Koine Greek in approximately the third century B.C. In that version, the Hebrew Yam Suph (ים סוף) is translated as Erythra Thalassa (Red Sea). (See also the more recent suggestion that the Yam Suph of the Exodus refers to a Sea of Reeds). The Red Sea is one of four seas named in English after common color terms — the others being the Black Sea, the White Sea and the Yellow Sea. The direct rendition of the Greek Erythra thalassa in Latin as Mare Erythraeum refers to the north-western part of the Indian Ocean, and also to a region on Mars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea


http://www.smithsonianjourneys.org/blog/how-the-red-sea-got-its-name-180950850/


http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/17/opinion/letter-on-mideast-geography-how-the-red-sea-got-its-name.html


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5489.htm



http://biblehub.com/topical/s/suph.htm


Strong's Hebrew

5489. Suph -- a place near which the law was given
... 5488, 5489. Suph. 5490 . "reed," a place near which the law was given.
Transliteration: Suph Phonetic Spelling: (soof) Short Definition: Suph. ... 
/hebrew/5489.htm - 6k

5487. suph -- to be fulfilled
... 5486, 5487. suph. 5488 . to be fulfilled. Transliteration: suph Phonetic Spelling:
(soof) Short Definition: fulfilled. ... 5486, 5487. suph. 5488 . ... 
/hebrew/5487.htm - 6k

5486. suph -- to come to an end, cease
... 5485, 5486. suph. 5487 . to come to an end, cease. Transliteration: suph Phonetic
Spelling: (soof) Short Definition: end. ... 5485, 5486. suph. 5487 . ... 
/hebrew/5486.htm - 6k


5490. soph -- an end
... end. Word Origin from suph Definition an end NASB Word Usage conclusion*
(1), end (3), rear (1). conclusion, end, hinder participle. ... 
/hebrew/5490.htm - 6k



5492a. suphah -- a storm wind
... Word Origin from suph Definition a storm wind NASB Word Usage gale (1), storm (3),
tempest (2), whirlwind (8), windstorms (1). 5492, 5492a. suphah. 5492b . ... 
/hebrew/5492a.htm - 5k


 Suph

 a place near which the law was given


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5489.htm

suph


to be fulfilled


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5487.htm



http://biblehub.com/topical/s/suph.htm

http://biblehub.com/topical/s/suph.htm

http://biblehub.com/topical/s/suph.htm


Strong's Hebrew

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5486.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5492a.htm


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5490.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Amiatinus

http://historyofinformation.com/expanded.php?id=3957


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5488.htm

Word Origin
probably of foreign origin

I. סוּף noun masculineJon 2:6 reeds, rushes (collective) (probably loan-word from Egyptian ‰wfi, reeds

Loan word

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5486.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5487.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5486.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5489.htm

a place near which the law was given

http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/learn-about-the-scrolls/languages-and-scripts?locale=en_US



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Amiatinus

http://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/bible-basics/what-are-the-earliest-versions-and-translations-of-the-bible.aspx

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/



Greek

Latin

Hebrew

English



Colors




https://www.ou.org/torah/machshava/tzarich-iyun/tzarich_iyun_the_translation_of_yam_suf/


http://www.jesuswalk.com/isaiah/maps/edom-1073x1650x300.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau

http://blog.dictionary.com/yellow-sea/

Black, Red, Yellow, White Sea

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+9%3A26&version=KJV;NKJV;AMP;NIV;CJB

Sea of Suf

1 Kings 9:26

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

26  King Shlomo built a fleet of ships in ‘Etzyon-Gever, by Elot on the shore of the Sea of Suf in the land of Edom.





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Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis

BBC - Dinosaur that Fooled the World
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/dinofool.shtml

National Geographic - November 1999
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/events/99/feather/

National Geographic - November 1999
http://dl0.creation.com/articles/p065/c06552/missing-link-lge.jpg

National Geographic 
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/11/1120_021120_raptor.html

BBC - Piltdown bird fake 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1248079.stm

Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-fake-fossils-pervert-paleontology-excerpt/

Piltdown Man Hoax
http://www.history.com/news/piltdown-man-hoax-100-years-ago

Smithsonian Institution 
https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/feathers/sensationalistic-unsubstantiated-tabloid-journalism/

Archaeoraptor
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6828/images/410539ba.2.jpg

Nature - Dr. Timothy Rowe PhD
Forensic palaeontology: The Archaeoraptor forgery
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6828/full/410539b0.html

Dr. Rowe - Start video at 19:33
https://youtu.be/zOodn_l1tH8?t=19m33s

Dr. Carl Werner MD


Evolution - Part 1
https://youtu.be/_nf1XThX8VQ


Evolution - Part 2
https://youtu.be/-C4GS-rNGM8


Evolution - Part 3
https://youtu.be/zOodn_l1tH8



Living Fossils - Part 1

Living Fossils - Part 2






question

No God - random universe

*not consistent w/ real world observation


ergo

There is a God

next

question

Three options

God is good positive
*creative, positive

God is evil bad negative
*destructive universe, implodes, no creation

God is neutral  
neither good/bad
*random universe

ergo

God is good positive creative


question
multiple gods or One God

multiple gods
non-ordered
capricious

multiple super natural gods

two gods
good and evil

this would like ying yang
this is like a neutral god situation

non-ordered
bipolar
universe

there is One God

i guess there could be lesser gods
angels and demons
supernatural beings
above humans
below the Supreme One God

but there is a Supreme One God


i guess the universe
could have been eternal and constant

but why are things changing dynamically

also the universe would have suffered a heat death

ergo  the universe cannot be constant



summary

Yes there is a God

God is Good  positive  creative

God is One supreme being

There can only be One

our universe was Not eternal

there had to be beginning

God is beyond space and time

general observations

with minimal inputs into the thought process



question

No God - random universe

*not consistent w/ real world observation


ergo

There is a God

next

question

Three options

God is good positive
*creative, positive

God is evil bad negative
*destructive universe, implodes, no creation

God is neutral  
neither good/bad
*random universe

ergo

God is good positive creative


question
multiple gods or One God

multiple gods
non-ordered
capricious

multiple super natural gods

two gods
good and evil

this would like ying yang
this is like a neutral god situation

non-ordered
bipolar
universe

there is One God

i guess there could be lesser gods
angels and demons
supernatural beings
above humans
below the Supreme One God

but there is a Supreme One God


i guess the universe
could have been eternal and constant

but why are things changing dynamically

also the universe would have suffered a heat death

ergo  the universe cannot be constant



summary

Yes there is a God

God is Good  positive  creative

God is One supreme being

There can only be One

our universe was Not eternal

there had to be beginning

God is beyond space and time

general observations

with minimal inputs into the thought process


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question
is the universe eternal

No
if the universe was eternal
it would be dead by now

entropy

unless it's self replicating

closed system of infinity

sun burns out

energy becomes mass

energy dissipates

Entropy

E = M C2

Energy perhaps

but mass no

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universe had a beginning

something cannot come from nothing

therefore
something must have created the universe
outside of space and time

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future prophecy

Not certain

political

what is certain
political

1.
Israel

2.
graft Olive tree

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Blessing_the_Jews/blessing_the_jews.html

focus on what you know
focus on what you can control
focus on what you can do
action


acts












































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